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bout time someone tried to stem the tide

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Yup, good for Arizona.
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And I say "NAY" to Arizona!!! They can stop someone that has darker skin and MIGHT be an illegal immigrant from Mexico?!

"Show me your papers." WTF is this? A state that is adopting the practices of Nazi Germany from 60 to 70 years ago?

It's not right and when and where does it stop? Be careful of what you applaud because you may some day become one of the ones that are excluded.

And John McCain, you have flipped more times than any fish that has been hooked and pulled out of the water!

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And I say "NAY" to Arizona!!! They can stop someone that has darker skin and MIGHT be an illegal immigrant from Mexico?!




if you're looking for illegals in Arizona...a border state...who else are you going to target? white people? no, you're going to check people who are hispanic. and if they are here legally and have nothing to hide they shouldn't mind. you're comparing this to nazi Germany is !@#$ ridiculous. i'm sick of criminals getting a pass cause society is afraid of offending someone. seems i recall hearing that the Isreali airline El Al (sp) has never had a hijacking....ever. and there's only one reason...they racial profile



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When I worked at TWA we had to put special bag tags on the passengers bags who were going to certain places in middle east. If the passenger didn't get on the plane then the bags didn't get on. It was probably considered racial profiling, but where all the hijackers had come from in the past? The Middle East, so it made more sense to profile those passengers than the ones going to say....Canada. This was not exclusive to TWA either, it was an FAA regulation. So all the airlines followed the same practice.

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We wouldn't have the need for racial profiling, had things not become as they are and have been for a long time now.
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And I say "NAY" to Arizona!!! They can stop someone that has darker skin and MIGHT be an illegal immigrant from Mexico?!




if you're looking for illegals in Arizona...a border state...who else are you going to target? white people? no, you're going to check people who are hispanic. and if they are here legally and have nothing to hide they shouldn't mind. you're comparing this to nazi Germany is !@#$ ridiculous. i'm sick of criminals getting a pass cause society is afraid of offending someone. seems i recall hearing that the Isreali airline El Al (sp) has never had a hijacking....ever. and there's only one reason...they racial profile




For one, not ALL illegal immigrants from Mexico are criminals! The vast majority of are not. Michigan has a lot of illegal immigrants from Mexico here for migrant work as well.

I can honestly say that ALL of the Hispanic people I have seen at the health department have been very kind, sweet and extremely grateful for our services. They also bring me more presents and small gifts of gratitude than anyone else. My gays are falling slightly behind in that area this year.

These people are just seeking a better way of life. Have you ever been to Mexico? Do you know how horrible the living conditions are there? And the conditions are even worse than they used to be with the drug cartels going crazy now.

Plus, as Bruce says, they do the jobs we don't want to do. They are paid poorly for them but are as grateful as hell for them because it is a much better life for them.

I can think of a ton of other demographic groups in this country that take more than they give and commit far more crimes. But they were born here so that is OK, I guess.

Also, do you carry around your 'papers' with you wherever you go.? Do you have your birth certificate or a passport on your person at all times? I know I don't.

Almost everyone is saying that this is unconstitutional and I believe that as well. They are also saying the the police will most likely cooperate and reinforce the conditions of this damn bill. The cops know who the people are that are committing the crimes and they are not going to be willing to target people that have not commited a crime.

And as far as Nazi Germany...all of that didn't happen over night. It was a slow process of removing rights from citizens before you wound up in a concentration camp or a mass grave because you were not of the correct ethnicity. By then even the Germans that were against that felt helpless to fight against that system and power.

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When I worked at TWA we had to put special bag tags on the passengers bags who were going to certain places in middle east. If the passenger didn't get on the plane then the bags didn't get on. It was probably considered racial profiling, but where all the hijackers had come from in the past? The Middle East, so it made more sense to profile those passengers than the ones going to say....Canada. This was not exclusive to TWA either, it was an FAA regulation. So all the airlines followed the same practice.



Of course that it is racial profiling but it is racial profiling that has a sound and decent reason to justify doing it. It saves lives. And I don't have a single damn problem with it either.

We know which groups of people hate us to the extreme. We know they don't mind committing suicide bombings or ramming planes into buildings and dying in the name of Allah if they can take out a few hundred or thousand 'evil' Americans with them.

I think any religion that teaches you that those things are OK is ASS. I think a lot of religions are ASS but this one seems to be the worst.

I don't think a single day passes where I don't read about another suicide bombing in the news that wound up killing a lot of innocent people.

That is primitive and ignorant and it is never going to change in our life-time. It's been going on for thousands of years.

Of course not every single Muslim is like that. But enough of them are to deserve more scrutiny at airport check-ins etc. Do you feel comfortable when they are on the same plane as you are? I don't.

And I am pretty SICK of hearing that Islam is a 'peaceful' religion! Perhaps most Muslims are peaceful and are not prone to extremist measures. They also have the most power to exert some force on the extremists in their own religion but they just remain silent.

And personally, I generally hate having to deal with them at my job. Michigan has the largest Arabic population in the US and I see a lot of them at work.

For the most part they are extremely difficult to deal with and we all inwardly groan when one signs into our clinic. The men are the worst. They have no respect for women and they will lie to you about everything. And they love prostitutes.

And God forbid that I have a client that is HIV positive! They will not give you any contact information. That is like wringing blood out of a stone! They don't give a crap about protecting their partners and just want things to remain a secret. They all got HIV from toilet seats.

I've noticed lately that some of my Arabic clients make a point of telling me "I'm Chaldean. I am Christian. I am a Catholic." They don't want to be associated with Islam or the extremists

I have met some people in that ethnicity that I have liked a lot. But I have met far more that I did not like.

And when was the last time you heard of a Mexican crashing a plane into a building? Never is the answer.

9/11 changed my perceptions. I did not possess a prejudice prior to 9/11. I also had never had to work with them too much prior to that and now I do.

So, yes, I do have a prejudice now that did not exist prior to 9/11. I don't like it but it is there. And that will not change until they do and I will never live long enough to see that. Things are just getting worse.

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For one, not ALL illegal immigrants from Mexico are criminals!



i can't believe you said something that !@#$ stupid! if they're here ILLEGALLY then they broke the law when they entered the country. and guess what....the very fact they're here ILLEGALLY makes them criminals. so yes...ALL illegal immigrants are criminals. you might not mind people who are here ILLEGALLY sucking on the government teet but i sure as !@#$ do. it might not bother me so much if they wanted to assimilate but they don't. the lazy bastards can't even be bothered to learn the !@#$ language. so tax dollars have to be spent teaching law enforcment and emergency workers theirs



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!@#$ illegals

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