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can you give me an english translation for:

b'gosh and b'gora?

and please tell me it's not something filthy and horrible!!!

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Heidi...I believe they have more or less the same meaning as the Scots word 'Jings'...which roughly translated is 'Goodness me', or 'Oh my god!!'...along those kinda lines!! :D

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okay...good. it went home on a flier to the parents at my elementary school and the only thing we could find was "to smear one with gore."

we thought we may have to send out retractions!!!

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I could, of course, be completely wrong.................. :holy: emoticon :holy:

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oh, lord....

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quote:

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Heidi...I believe they have more or less the same meaning as the Scots word 'Jings'...which roughly translated is 'Goodness me', or 'Oh my god!!'...along those kinda lines!! :D



That would have been my understanding too Drew, esp about b'gosh. Not sure I have heard of b'gora.
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Saying it over in my head ( well I am in an empty office and nobody else to talk to, which also explains why I spend so much time on here) I think we say b'gor meaning "to be sure"

Like "b'gor thats a lovely dog" meaning "sure isnt that a lovely dog"
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so it would be like "for goodness sakes; i'm sure"?

that would work...

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Lots of seemingly innocent exclamations have historic blasphemous origins. The ones that spring to mind are 'bl**dy' (I'm typing this at work, LOL) which is a contraction of 'By Our Lady', and the medieval 'gadzooks!' which is a contraction of 'God's hooks' - therefore, the nails from the crucifix.

These would have been seriously offensive centuries ago, and 'gosh' would have been a way to avoid the explicit use of 'God' as an oath, much as people might say 'shoot' or 'sugar' in different circumstances today.

So, while the use of such words would not raise any concerns today, they would once have been taboo. I have seen both words (written something like begosh and begorrah) in stereotypical representations of Irish speech, and it seems very credible that they derive from 'by God' and 'be gory' (smeared with gore). 'Bejasus' also crops up in a similar context.

I suspect that Drew's 'Jings' is also blasphemous!

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From the Compact Oxford English Dictionary.

begorra

....an exclamation of surprise traditionally attributed to the Irish.

  — ORIGIN alteration of "by God".

Spot on Martin. Although I can't find a reference to "be gory".
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