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Re: Goodbye everyone.


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w g wrote:

NP - just went over there & read the petition thing, by all means resign as a Mod but please don't leave US - WE LOVE YA!

For my twopenceworth - I don't think anyone has the right to post abusive text/pics on public message boards that have specific rules to the contrary. If people think they are "dark & quirky" & wish to post stuff which is outside the acceptable posting rules then why not set up shop somewhere else? Loads of places to do that on the net, as said before consistant rule breaking could result in the plug being pulled on us all which is hardly fair.




Totally agree with you Suz. You are a wise woman.
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For those that do not wish to visit The Flood, here is my post from over there. If people would prefer me to remove it from Mary's Place, please let me know and I will.




I think this is one of my first posts in The Flood and in keeping with the ""spirit" of this place I think some of you may find it controversial. I hope it at least makes you consider and think about your posts and their impact upon others and indeed the future of this unofficial Bruce Springsteen board. I am glad it is unofficial because I would be horrified to think what Bruceand his people would think of the current situation.

On Friday evening I was not logged in but was lurking. I was incredibly bored at work, so had a look in The Flood and could not resist looking at the ass thread. The pictures did not shock or offend me. What did offend me was the real time abuse I was witnessing directed from one person to another. Fred's posts directly aimed at Jill. I like to think I am impartial, so it is necessary that I point out that I consider Jill one of my best friends and know nothing about Fred. Therefore, it is difficult for me to be objective.

I read nad re--read the thread, including Jill's explanation as to why she moderated some of Fred's posts. I like Jill and do sometimes feel she can be quite sensitive. Surely this is really a quality in a person? Nevertheless, her explanation about her moderating of Fred's post did seem very reasonable. Her post was clearly well thought out and considered. I seem to recall it even included a smiley or two. No evidence of a vendetta here as far as I am concerned.

I then re-read Fred's abusive post, in which he called Jill a string of names. I don't recall them exactly, but felt they were totally uncalled for. This offended me. Offense is of course subjective. At this stage I read the Runboard rules many times. I think I have fairly thick skin, so I thought it would be best to look at this from a kind of neutral perspective. i.e. Runboard's. After all they could shut the site and then where would the "spirit" of The Flood be? Consigned to history and memories. It was clear to me that Fred had broken many of the Runboard rules.

Still I considered what should I do next. So, I continued to read the Ass thread and Fred was posting relentlessly with pictures that I felt Jill would find offensive. I did not find the pictures themselves offensive, disgusting yes, offensive no. However, I did find the fact that they were clearly aimed directly to offend Jill, offensive. In one post Fred even asked for advice as to how he could take a picture of his own ass to post.

I did consider posting or pm'img to request that Fred cease. I didn't because I thought he would then turn on me and I don't want abusive pm's or emails. Someone did suggest Fred have a drink (Pounder I think, apologies if this is incorrect), so it was not just me who thought Fred had gone too far.

Now the fact that this abuse is acceptable on other boards does not make it ok here and could lead to this board being closed down. Does anyone really want this? If you do, then you should not be posting here. This is why we have Moderators. I dislike censorship, but I dislike abuse even more.

I informed NP via text what I had witnessed and requested that he take action. I did not request that Fred be banned. NP posted on a thread that he had sent Fred a pm and suggested he read it. Clearly Fred had not been banned at this stage. In the meantime, the "offensive" posts had been removed. Not by Fred, so it must have been by NP. Fred then seemed to jump to the conclusion that Jill had done this and went off on another rant and continued to post more photos on another thread. It seems that at this stage that he was banned. Was there really an alternative option? I have not seen the pm's he sent, but I do know John is not a liar (a cantankerous old git sometimes - by his own admission), so if says thay were abusive I believe him.

I don't know whether Fred should be allowed to post again, but I do know he should apologise. Will he? I don't know. Should someone on his IP address be allowed to post? Not if that means this abuse continues. In that instance, it is not the Moderators who prevent this but Fred's own actions.

I would like to remind everyone what brought us all together in the first place. Is this really following the "spirit" of the work of Bruce Springsteen?

"We are brothers, sisters, and all"

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Faron

I read your post over at the Flood but decided not to reply as I wanted to put an end to all that !@#$!

I am so glad that I didn't see everything Fred did as I would have been so, so upset. I was blissfully unaware as John only gave a brief outline what had been levelled at me...and you kept it to yourself. Was this to save me getting upset, I wonder?
 
I know what Fred's like, having had experience of his tantrums and unpleasantness in the past. This time he went way too far though. Others did the exactly the same thing a while back and were banned. He knew this!

Anyway, I am gonna let this go for now.

Thank you for posting your views over at the Flood - it's good to have a bit of support in the midst of all the mayhem. I am stubborn and will not let them get to me - nor will I resign as a mod.

IMO John should reconsider and come back to us. It won't be the same without the grumpy old git!!! emoticon :) :D
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I think what happened at the flood was horrid, but I hope that John comes back here and doesnt let the flood push him out.
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I think what happened at the flood was horrid, but I hope that John comes back here and doesnt let the flood push him out.



here here kathy, I dont get on here too much these days, but pop in and have a nosey and see if there is any topic to join in from time to time, I love hearing whats going on in peoples every day life, and john is a lovely guy and hope he stays on, or at least posts and still comes to meet ups!! :holy: :holy:
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Np, not sure if I have your personal details, would love to keep in touch if you are not on the boards though? Please leave me your details on [email protected] :(
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I have never ventured into the flood, my choice not to, I am however, extremely disappointed that some arsehole I dont know has done whatecver to Jill and then to John.

Faron's post above is in my opinion excellent, Suzannes post is another good piece of wordsmithing,, John I hope that this will not be the end of you on this board,, if needs be, why not have a board that needs some form of membership, that way it will keep the plebs at bay.

I still dont intend to see what caused this issue, just hope that John and Jill are able to find a way to rise above this issue (if thats the right terminology), they are both invaluable friends in my world of springsteen
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Re: Goodbye everyone.


quote:

N P wrote:

Sorry I've had enough.

Recent events have convinced me I don't want to be here anymore.

Those that wish to contact me have my email address and mobile number.

Sharon, don't forget your promise.

Be happy, healthy and safe.




John i'm really sorry to read that you are leaving the threads especially as you were the first person i ever met from here....

I never break a promise John but er.....what was it? If it was to meet for lunch i think we have arranged that.....if it as something else you need to remind me....well i had had a few wines Fri eve. I'll be in touch.xx


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Excellent post Faron. I too rarely venture over to the Flood. I think that as you so rightly say we all came together because there was something about Bruce that spoke to all of us. Yes we can all get down and dirty but here is not an appropriate place to do it.
Anything offensive ,sexually demeaning,homophobic or racist has no place on these boards and it is thanks to Jill and John that stuff like this doesnt usually appear.
iIfind it offensive that our moderators have been subjected to this sort of harmful personal abuse.
Some of these people really need to get a life and maybe listen to a Springsteen lyric or two along the way.
Love ya all annie
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Re: Goodbye everyone.


quote:

Faron wrote:

On Friday evening I was not logged in but was lurking. I was incredibly bored at work, so had a look in The Flood and could not resist looking at the ass thread.



Excellent post, Faron but I couldn't keep from laughing at the fact that you admitted to checking out the ass thread from work!

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I have to say that I don't limit myself to any particular section of the boards, and that I have made some wonderful friendships both here and in the Flood. It's a shame to see all this happen. I bet if we were all sat at the pub having a pint, we'd get on famously. :D

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