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 you phrase it better than me ian!

and steph, i have had huge laughs about bush, but not one about Obama, he is smart, handsome, and from what i hear, he knows what he is talking about.. I would trade him for our prime minister without a thought... but then again... i don t think america needs our prime minister emoticon

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Maybe W. could run again in 2011. He would bring the pride back and most probably not get any nobel prize. Neither physics or chemistry, nor peace.

And that ain´t rocket science.

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No too many (Americans) are finding this funny at all. People can joke all they want over this, but I can tell you that most here are not finding this amusing in the least, in fact...there's an outcry of both sides of the fence saying.."WTF?!" I imagine our current administration in the Oval Office is the butt of jokes in other countries.




I think you imagine wrong Steph, it was the previous administration that was the butt of jokes in other countries. The BBC joke was against Bush, not Obama. I think Obama could stand for election in most countries of the world right now and win by a landslide.

To have a bright, articulate President that is widely respected around the world is a good thing, not a sign of weakness.

Obviously the award is premature as the proof of the pudding is in the eating, but the reality is that the world seems a far safer with Obama in the Oval Office, or is at least perceived to be by the world at large. I think he got the prize now to further encourage him to deliver what he has started.





My thoughts exactly, Ian.

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As someone recently pointed out, "we all think differently on issues," this being one of them.

I am not on the Obama train and quite frankly it does seem bizarre to me to award someone the Nobel Peace Prize in advance of, or in the hope that this person does achieve something of true merit, not simply because he is popular and the first Black President and Bush was so hated around the globe. For the record, I would have fallen over backwards had former President Bush been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, that would have been bizarre and totally uncalled for to say the least, but Bush was very direct in his attempt with war in Afghanistan (after 9-11 happened) we should have concentrated more on Afghanistan than Iraq, but that's a mute point now and I'm certainly no military general, educated enough to know what would have been better. Just me, thinking that we should have concentrated harder on Afghanistan.

The only thing I have seen that President Obama has achieved in his short time in office, is sinking us further in debt, but that's what Democrats do, Black or White. His popularity with so many around the globe is amazing to me. It really is. Tell me, what is it? Is it because he's Black, he's a Democrat, he smokes, he goes on talk shows, the thinking that anyone is better than Bush was, what the hell is it then?

I'm not aware of any single thing he has done thus far in office that merits The Nobel Peace Prize. Has he brought peace to any nation currently engaged in war? I guess I was under the impression that the Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to achievement. Not hopes of. If President Obama wants peace throughout the world, then he should start with withdrawing all the troops engaged in war throughout the foreign lands, pull them out entirely. Let those countries defend themselves, this was all Bush's mess, so Obama should rid himself and his current administration from all of Bush's feck up's of waging bad wars.

Obama wants peace, then go all out for it Mr. President and don't forget to do it rapidly. The people are waiting.
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I do think it's appropriate that President Obama will donate the awarded 1.4 or maybe it's 1.5 million Nobel Peace Prize money to charity. I'm thinking it might be The United Negro College Fund, or the National Council of Negro Women.

I'm sure it will go to a charity of need. That is good to do.
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I think you imagine wrong Steph, it was the previous administration that was the butt of jokes in other countries. The BBC joke was against Bush, not Obama. I think Obama could stand for election in most countries of the world right now and win by a landslide.

To have a bright, articulate President that is widely respected around the world is a good thing, not a sign of weakness.

Obviously the award is premature as the proof of the pudding is in the eating, but the reality is that the world seems a far safer with Obama in the Oval Office, or is at least perceived to be by the world at large. I think he got the prize now to further encourage him to deliver what he has started.



Okay, so Obama doesn't constantly stutter or stammer over his words as Bush has done (Obama being articulate as you stated) This is what garners respect around the world? The ability of a leader to speak clearly and concisely? Can you or anyone right now tell me how the world seems to be safer because Obama is the US President? Is it his charisma? No one would dare harm or attack the United States or it's allies because Obama is so well respected? Why is he so respected to begin with? Former President Bush set aside from my question. Let's leave Bush and the hatred for him out of it for a moment and concentrate on why Obama is so loved and greatly admired.

Have the people forgotten about 9-11-01? The reason we started war in Afghanistan in the first place. Perhaps since it's been 8 years we should just forget all about it? It's old and people forget about these things and move on? What do you suppose Britain would have done had Al Qaeda bombed the hell out of two major landmarks and killed thousands of people in their attack as they did in NYC? Would they have left things alone?
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I do think it's appropriate that President Obama will donate the awarded 1.4 or maybe it's 1.5 million Nobel Peace Prize money to charity. I'm thinking it might be The United Negro College Fund, or the National Council of Negro Women.

I'm sure it will go to a charity of need. That is good to do.



Both of those charities are really good causes. How come you brought up those two in particular though?

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Because President Obama and his wife have donated to them before. There's nothing wrong with donating to a charitable organization of ones choice. I think it's very appropriate for the President to donate the Nobel Peace Prize money to charity.
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I think President Obama being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize says a lot about the state of international politics and the US president's role in it all. He is a very reasonable, empathetic and affable man. He is also very intelligent and has a good sense of humor even about himself. Steph, those are qualities most people like in others and that probably make people in other countries feel safer.

Since we are the only country to date that has actually dropped an atomic bomb (actually two) on a civilian population, and everyone knows we have many more ready to fire around the world, it's really important to know there is a level-headed person in control of that. I agree with Lara though, the prize probably should have gone to the voters who put him in office.

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The only thing I have seen that President Obama has achieved in his short time in office, is sinking us further in debt, but that's what Democrats do, Black or White.



No, actually, President Bush and the Republicans sank us deep, deep, deep in debt after President Clinton and Vice President Gore dragged us out of the ridiculous debt the two previous Republican presidents sank us into. The economy started slowing when President Bush took office, but he had 8 years to improve our economy and he was left with a surplus of money by Clinton-Gore and he still didn't do a damn thing to improve the economy. He used that surplus on two wars and just let the economy continue to spiral out of control. So now President Obama is faced with the worst economic crisis this country has ever known. I don't know what's going to get us out of it, but at least he started working on it right away and he hasn't let up. It's nice to turn on the news and hear that Congress and the President are working on domestic issues again.
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